Sunday, 11 January 2009

HIDE IN SHAME OR NECESSARY EVIL? Israeli troops push deep into Gaza- "Olmert: Attack on Gaza "unavoidable". Over 500 Palestinians, including 100 women & children, have been killed in the 10 day military operation, and 2,600 Palestinians have been wounded on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

HIDE IN SHAME OR NECESSARY EVIL? Israeli troops push deep into Gaza- "Olmert: Attack on Gaza "unavoidable". Over 500 Palestinians, including 100 women & children, have been killed in the 10 day military operation, and 2,600 Palestinians have been wounded on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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AP-Israeli troops gained control of parts of northern Gaza Sunday, less than 24 hours after launching a ground incursion into the Palestinian territory, according to Palestinian security sources.


A Palestinian youth is taken to one of the many hospitals in Gaza which are overflowing with patients.

A Palestinian youth is taken to one of the many hospitals in Gaza which are overflowing with patients.

The ground push has resulted in mounting casualties on both sides, and the Israeli military on Sunday also continued its air assault on the Palestinian territory.

Palestinian medical sources say Israeli forces have killed 37 Palestinians -- both civilians and militants -- since moving into the territory Saturday night.

With those deaths, at least 485 Palestinians, including about 100 women and children, have been killed in the week-long military operation, and 2,600 Palestinians have been injured, most of them civilians, sources said.

An Israeli soldier was killed and another was seriously wounded near Jabalya in northern Gaza, according to the Israeli military. It marks the first Israeli military death since the ground operation was launched Saturday night.

Israeli forces killed three senior members of Hamas' military wing on Sunday, Hamas sources told CNN.

One was killed near Jabalya and the other two died in an airstrike in southern Gaza, the sources said.

Housam Hamdan and Mohammed Hilou -- both senior members of the Izzedine al-Qassam Brigades -- were killed in an airstrike in Khan Yunis in southern Gaza, Hamas sources said.

The Israeli military said it was targeting the two senior Hamas members but gave no indication of their status.

Israel Defense Forces said Hamdan is responsible for firing long-range Grad rockets into Beer Sheva and Ofakim in southern Israel. IDF said Hilou is a commander of Hamas special forces in Khan Yunis and is also responsible for launching long-range rocket attacks at Israel.

Hamas sources said Israeli forces in Jabalya killed Mohammed Shalpokh, a member of Hamas commando forces which Israel blames for launching rockets from northern Gaza.

The Israeli military said on Sunday Israeli missiles targeted 45 Hamas locations overnight, including the Hamas intelligence headquarters. During the day, the Israeli Air Force attacked over 15 targets, including the three senior Hamas members, as well as rocket-launching sites and squads, armed gunmen, and a smuggling tunnel, the military said.
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The Israeli military said the ground incursion is the second phase of the operation to stop militants from firing rockets and mortars into southern Israel.

Four Israelis -- one soldier and three civilians -- have been killed in the ongoing rocket strikes, Israeli officials said.

At least 30 rockets, including 12 Grad rockets, were launched from Gaza into southern Israel on Sunday, the IDF said.

One Israeli was slightly wounded when a rocket landed in the southern Israeli city of Ashdod, according to Israeli ambulance services.
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Not long after Israel's ground incursion began, Hamas vowed to "fight until the last breath" and warned Israel that "Gaza will be your cemetery." Video Watch the conflict unfold on both sides »

"We will not abandon the battlefield, and we will stay on the thorny course, and we will fight until the last breath," Hamas chief spokesman Ismail Radwan said in a statement on Palestinian network Al-Aqsa.
Source; edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/04/israel.gaza/index.... 

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sam j rollo  Pro User  says:

go in strength....may John Zorn be with you, Israel.
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New Mexico Gunman AKA "Plains Pistoleer"  Pro User  says:

Israel rocks...Hamas is a group of barbarians, and while my heart aches for the non-belligerents caught in the crossfire, I also know that Hamas pulls the usual coward's stunt of using private houses, religious buildings, schools and hospitals for weapons caches (North Vietnam also used to do similar for propaganda value back in the Vietnam War) and firing positions. When Israeli troops shoot back, non-belligerents are in the line of fire, and Hamas gets its propaganda bonus.

Personally, I hope Israel learned its lesson from 2006 and grinds Hamas into the ground! Between Ahmadi-Nejad calling for a new Shoah, the anti-Jewish rantings of Hassan Nasrallah (and 99.9 percent of the imams in the muslim world), the muslims need to learn (and the rest of the world needs to be reminded) that "Never again!" MEANS "Never again!"

God bless and keep Israel and the Jewish people!
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josmyyt says:

God bless and keep israel
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chuckwheat  Pro User  says:

If only those pesky Palestinians would accept their lot as "less than" then the Israeli tanks wouldn't send in their tanks blaring "Dead babies
(can take care of themselves)."
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

Fuck those Israeliekilling bastards - talk about disproportiionate force . Palestine, poor and shelling crude rockets against those USA fed military buggers with jets , and huge forces and armour . David and Goliath. Fuck it , 400 dead , at least , Israel four dead.

Israel was funded and founded on terrorism let us not forget and actually the Gaza strip is just a small place in terms of the whole "state" of Israel. Israel is , in the end , Old Testament and very much and "eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth" culture from the loveless Old Testament and of course Jews never recognised the New Testament , never embraced Jesus and just stuck to the first five books of the bible which reflected on the laws and history of the Jews and could not look further forward. and so out of kilter with the rest of the world.

Totally pissed off thgat president elect obama hasn't spoken out yet. Bush blames Hamas but I blame america and Israel. so we invade and kncock off the Iraq dictator but support Israel. No justice.
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

Sod it, Israel is the agressor here so don't give me that "God Bless and keep the "State " of Israel crap. Whose land is it anyway ?

The Palestinians are after all the aborgines and Israel got the place in some sick deal after the second world war --ho, ho ho, their "promised land " and have to fight to keep it. And they will have to keep on fighting to keep it as it isn't theirs.

The right wing are in power and then again ther are all those extemists, ultra- orthodox jews who have built settlements and are at war with their own state. How shit is that?

Mugabe has brought Zimbawe to its knees and no one jumps in. Israel wages war on a poor state and yet no one says anything and lets them use extreme force.Why does the world allow these Jew hawks to opress this little Arab wannabe state.? Then again when Saddam Hussein was doing his thing, UK and USA moved in with their might. How can this sort of hypocricy be justified? Israel has used disproprtinate force .
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d_nurv~unsafe/censored  Pro User  says:

legacy
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

Cult ? A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. QED ! Tossers . Scientology ? A body of beliefs and related practices created by American science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard. Again, dear readers QED.
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New Mexico Gunman AKA "Plains Pistoleer"  Pro User  says:

Why is it the most vociferously anti-Semitic people always seem to be British?
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

The Church of Scientology is an unscrupulous commercial enterprise that harasses its critics and brutally exploits its members

BRW.I have no state per se if you are having a dig at me.S o ican'tcriticise thse awful things happening in Gaza and not be regarded as an anti semite? Is that what you are telling me. I would not find this sort of anit life behaviour unacceptable of any race or creed- it is anti life and I am pro life with no politicial or religious pursuasion.
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New Mexico Gunman AKA "Plains Pistoleer"  Pro User  says:

Read what you wrote. It's dripping with hatred for Jews and sympathy for the Arabs. T.E. Lawrence couldn't have idealized those barbarians any more than you have. Israel was getting rocketed by Hamas, and it always seems that whenever Israel defends itself, people like you condemn Israel while giving the Arabs who started the whole thing a pass.

Israel has a presence there dating back 3,000-plus years. When Jews began re-settling there in numbers in the Nineteenth Century, the mohammedan Arabs were a small minority, and most of the Biblical cities were populated by Christians (Chaldean and Assyrian, primarily). Israel is the historical entity, "Palestine" is the fiction created by the Romans at the time of the Diaspora. Bluntly, there NEVER was an Arab state called "Palestine." There was a region called "Palestine," but guess who controlled it?

The Turks, then the British following WWI. Prior to Israel declaring independence in 1948, the Hashemites of what is now Jordan were to rule that area. Truthfully, the "Palestinian homeland" is the present state of Jordan, the government of which was usurped by the Hashemites.

So take your self-righteous excuses for Jew-hatred and stick them where the sun don't shine. The US didn't create Israel...Israel declared independence and then FOUGHT FOR ITS LIFE AGAINST SIX DIFFERENT ARAB COUNTRIES AT ONCE on the VERY DAY they declared independence! With the exception of the (Anglo-French) Suez Operation in the 1950's, Israel has ALWAYS fought defensive campaigns...and THAT is historic fact. The Arabs are cowards who shield themselves behind women and children and then use the causualties caused by THEIR OWN COWARDICE to propagandize against Israel, and Israeli soldiers and pilots place themselves at risk to AVOID civilian casualties! The Arabs SPECIFICALLY target civilians (9/11, the London and Madrid attacks, Munich, any homicide bombing you can name, the Qassam rockets being fired into Israeli cities), but Arab sympathizing dhimmis like you always find some way to blame Israel.

Deal with it John, you're an anti-Semite and your pious pronouncements to the contrary don't hold up when the facts are brought forth. I can read what you've written and the Jew hatred oozes out of it. Obama won't say Word One because he's pro-Arab and this country is largely pro-Israel...and as foul as Obama is, he's not stupid enough to show himself as being anti-Israel before he's inaugurated. Your anti-Jewish hate comes out most strongly in your statements condemning the Jews for not accepting the Christian Bible...the Jews have The Covenant! Jesus was sent for the Gentiles! Bluntly, your swastika is showing, John...
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sliperymule says:

Olmert was elected on a platform of peace.
Most Israeli armaments say 'made in USA'
Nothing new
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NickFun says:

Gail, I admire your balls for going there and taking these pictures.

Don't all these 'religions' have a commandment that states something like 'thou shalt not kill'? Whatever hapened to that?
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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

Thanks nick-

These are not easy to get. Instead, people just take the piss out of me and call me a porn hack-which even the porn shots are not easy to get. Thank you for that!!!

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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

No need to be abusive! I am neither a Nazi or and anti- semite. I'd hope no country would behave in this way regradless of the state religion- There are , for example, aspects of the regime in Saudi that I object very strongly against. I am opinionated yes and can deal with that. Thanks for the insight into History - stuff I didn't know. Personally , whatever happened in the past, whilst giving context to more recent events neither justifies or really explains what is happening here. Hamas are Arabs yes? and I do not condone what they have been doing or their fanatical desire to destroy Israel. Look to your own back yard when you speak of Arabs- is it that you are lumping all Arabs together?
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oldseaman154 says:

I am with Nick. Doug
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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

HI jOHN SWEETIE-

WHATS UP-

WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO?

XXX
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

The online porn industry is vast. According to this site ,
www.familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistic s.html
from their 2006 survey every second - $3,075.64 is being spent on pornography; every second - 28,258 Internet users are viewing pornography; every second - 372 Internet users are typing adult search terms into search engines; every 39 minutes a new pornographic video is being created in the United States.

Revenue from internet porn sites is staggering! These figures from 2006 in billions of dollars: - China $27.40 South Korea $25.73 Japan $19.98 $156.75 US $13.33 etc , etc. The global business is both amateur and professional and most must be organised business both legit and essentially criminal and exploitive. According to the site the pornography industry income is larger than the combined revenues of the top technology companies combined: Microsoft, Google, Amazon, eBay, Yahoo!, Apple, Netflix and EarthLink.

The site also estimates that there are a staggering 4.2 million websites (12% of total websites) and some 420 million pornographic pages! Roughly 42.7% of internet users view porn.
According to this blogger , salaswildthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/05/intern et-porn-stat... ,Good Magazine , in May 2007, announced that 89% of porn is created in the US and $89 a second is spent on porn.

Essentially , in my view one of the characteristics of the vast majority of pornography sites is the sheer monotony of the all the images , the lighting, the stereotypical expressions on the faces of the participants and the same positions both of the physical bits of bodies but also where the camera is ! Essentially something beautiful is reduced to a commodity!

I can see that for Gail, getting her stuff cannot be easy but I can also see a huge difference between what she strives to do, how she gets there and how I imagine the vast majority of porn entrepreneurs get their stuff. Her stuff is individual and so often celebratory. There are shots of women in the industry so to speak but also a number of shots of women who are just ordinary people. Clearly those lovely people were completely put at ease by Gail and you have to be special to earn that kind of trust.
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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

Thank you john for that!!
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

Deserved ! BTW I was addressing www.flickr.com/photos/plainspistoleer/ !
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jakomako1 says:

any racist would say israel defending itself,the only atomic force is defending itself,,,,lol,,, do u think the people in gaza must die in silence while israel is preventing any medication,food,gas or even air to enter gaza??do u think they must be silent watching the daily assasination of palastanians saying they r terrorists?? israel began this war and only fools belive their lies,,,, u know something u racist who wears the military cap u dont deserve to be a soldier u r a criminal and i say to israeli commanders blow an atomic bomb over gaza because in every house there is a resistant to u criminals and every man with honor will resist ur crimes till his last breath
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

Peace!
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

BTW Gail , You rock my socks . I hate porn and mostly the ney porn thing is run by global criminals.You aresomething better and well- bighugs
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Manhattan Observer  Pro User  says:

I am glad that the casualty rates have been kept low. The majority of wounded and dead are Hamas terrorist. The remaining are those used or volunteer as human shields. The Hamas terrorist have women and children sit beside their rockets, ammo and wanted suspects.

THAT IS A WAR CRIME A TRULY MASSIVE WAR CRIME!
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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

MO-

As a Jew, I feel deeply saddened that this is happening. The casualty rates are not low for the people of Gaza. Come on, you know that!! For the blood of 1 Jew comes the blood of 55 Arabs.

These are mostly woman and children-yes, a lot are Hamas-but like all war, the casualties and fatalities are usally non-combatant civilians.

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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

Thanks John-

Big Hugs

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Manhattan Observer  Pro User  says:

I was more saddened seeing a million Israelis living under the Hamas terror umbrella and no one protesting or coming to their aid.

The majority of these casualties are bad guys. These are Hamas members who train at hijacking, hostage taking, bomb planting, sniping, suicide missions and naturally rocket firing. The civilians often dying are their relatives/supporters who provide aid, shelter, and act as a human shield around fugitive terrorist and stock piles of weapons. This is has been an Arab terrorist technique for decades. They provoke Israel into coming in and than call all the media outlets. They brag about killing Israelis and than scream help it's a massacre! Meanwhile this is all engineered by the Hamas/Fatah media machine that uses people as tissues for their perverse agendas.

What was the alternative?

Btw. The casualty rates should never be proportional and nor should the force! That makes no sense.

Look on the bright side the biggest honor for the dead is to become a shaheed and be martyred. That is what they wanted and that that is what Hamas are getting.
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Ronrad  Pro User  says:

New Mexican Gunman: (name says it all) How come every time some one has any critics on Israel's behaviour they are called anti-semitic? How come people seem to forget that the creation of the state of Israel was was an invention of the allies to clean their consience after they had not been able to safe the lives of million of Jews in W.W.II? How willing were the US to accept Jewish refugees coming from Europe before W.W.II? (or was the ship they sailed on sent back to Europe?) You say: "Israel has a presence there dating back 3,000-plus years." If that gives them the right to reclaim land that has belonged to the Palestinean people for centuries, how about your native Americans that were massacred by millions? I truly believe that evey human being has the right to live in peace but let' s face it the world would be much more peaceful without the western world always blindly supporting Israel. History is repeating it self in a way: the pioneers who conquered your country many years ago are considered hero's and those who defended their birth grounds had to be wiped out. Does this sound familiar to you? Is that the reason you support Israel and you condemn the legal inhabitants of the region? (or are you saying that what we now call Israel was inhabited?) and is that maybe why your flickr name sounds so "trigger happy" Maybe I should have put my comments on your flickr site but I saw that you will delete any negative remarks anyway. You could be Israely! Sorry Nice Jewish Girl for using your site for my comments. I think you photos are wonderfull and I am NOT anti-semitic I am just anti Israely politics! (and sorry for my mistakes in English, I’m not a native speaker)
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Manhattan Observer  Pro User  says:

Ronrad: The debate as to whether Israel should exist is moot. Israel exists. Should the US exist? I think you are right that maybe the US should be returned to the native people. Let us start with Texas. For the record since you are misinformed seemingly on this matter, the US and England did it's best to prevent a Jewish state from forming. They both had arms embargos against Israel and had not supported Israel. Israel was not created by the UN it was built by Jews. It was built, there were banks, infrastructure, labor unions, schools, army, police, sanitation and all governed and created by Jews. The British slowed down the creation of Israel by thirty years. England Armed, trained, equipped the Arab legion and even lead them against Israel. Look up Pasha Glubb. Palestine does not exist.

Palestine has never existed. Has never been planned out and nothing in terms of effort, work, investment, thought, has been put into the so called Palestinian entity.

One reason is that there is no incentive. The so called Palestinians are the largest welfare recipients in the world both in terms of per person and for the longest amount of time. Individuals and families, often made up ones receive "refugee status" at times for 60+ years! Even in Manhattan you can find a place in 60 years but why should one when they are payed to be called refugees. They are salaried refugees, part time victims, actors, and so on for this mid-East theater. Also, there is no Palestinian culture or people to form a nation with. This is a fact. What Arabs hope is to take what the Jews built and claim it for their own. They cannot do it through force so they try OSLO, suicide attacks, Camp David, road map and now rockets to achieve their ultimate agenda to destroy Israel.

What you have here is not an independence movement, you have a destroy Israel's independent movement! See the difference? The war of Israel's independance rages on. What other nations do people still question it's validity and ironically its one of the oldest existing nations and one that everyone has read about. In fact maybe you notices some religions mention the Jews and Israel.

So, I am glad to inform you Ronrad. Your misconceptions are common and easy to google and clear up. Just stay away from those propaganda sites. There are sooo many and they use orwellian type logic for their justification of ethnic cleansing and terror.

You are better than that!
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johncoxon  Pro User  says:

Whether or not Palestine exists isn't quite the point in my view and M.O. mates the fatal leap of generalsing first about Palestinians and then Arabs. There must be a substantial population of Arabs who perceive themselves to be Palestininian. It wasn't that long ago, I believe, that there was no state/ country of Israel and way back the stateless Israelites were oppressed by Egypt. I can't imagine that the mass of ordinary Palestinians either want war, or the destruction of Israel and to live on handouts. I'd imagine most would want to be self-sufficient and at Peace so they could just get on with everyday life. I can see that such brutal military intervention and the death of civilians in disproportionate numbers to the aggressors would only serve to further allienate even moderate Palestinians.

True Moslems are essentially peace loving and living. I think Jewish orthodoxy is based on the first few books of the bible where the law was "lex talionis", which is the law of retribution, and God is vengeful. Love thy Neighbour belongs to the New Testament . I love Gail's image here- the face, (the person? ) buried in the book. History is to be learned from and improved upon , not wollowed in and used to justify present day horrors.
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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

Thanks John!!
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BigGuy1611  Pro User  says:

Thank you gail, one has to see that it all comes full circle. Life, death, porn, life, death! Keep up the great work and keeping us all informed. Because we have had our heads up our butts too long!
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NICE JEWISH GIRL  Pro User  says:

Thanks BigGuy-

It is really interesting!!

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jakomako1 says:

anti-semitic??dont u know that most arabs r semitic? and that israel is racist even to its own citizens they r using low ranked israelians as shelters israelians from arabic and african origins even from eastern europe they r living in the front line with the occupied lands, what do they want from the war they ve the most updated technology and can stop any single rocket but they dont want so they want the excuse for killing civilians and un armed people, this is the terrorise of a complete nation they dont remember that when they were refugees from the terrorism of west two hundred years ago they found peace in arabic land and people, and this is the repay of favors israelian way, zionists dont think they r better than arabs they think they r better from the all world and their plans r just begining, keep sleeping westerns and the history will repeat itself and ur kids will c the severe down curve of ur civilizations same as arabic nations saw.
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d_nurv~unsafe/censored  Pro User  says:

just a couple of notes gail...

the bombing campaign of germany in WWII claimed the lives of 40,000 allied airmen...an astounding number by any standards...

the campaign was one of the most malicious attacks on civilians ever perpetrated under the guise of war...it was carried out until the bitter end of the war... well beyond the point where it was needed to break the industrial war machine of the Reich... almost every major german city...notably Dresden and Berlin were decimated with deadly oxygen sucking phosphorous bomb attacks...

other than the A bomb strikes on Japan...this may stand as one of the most malicious acts of genocide ever perpetrated...and in this case there is no "prolonged war" rationale for the action...

the legacy... (title of the above painting)... of cruelty and "collateral damage" continues in modern conflict to-day and was broadened by the '72 hostage taking in Munich...where innocents were overtly introduced into the equation...kidnapping highjacking and more recently suicide bombing have become the methods of terror...

and since... tit for tat retaliation has become the justification for
the kinds of inhuman military responses as we have seen in Gaza and elsewhere for decades...

i often wonder how we would feel about these kinds of events...if for example the Nazis won the war...or if the Islamists somehow managed to take over Saudi Arabia...

and i think it's a shame that all atrocities of this nature were not and are not punished sternly by impartial international courts... where all acts of genocide should be dealt with equitably regardless of who emerges as the victor of a conflict...

grammar edits x several
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Manhattan Observer  Pro User  says:

dnurv has some valid points. I think the whole construct of war is obviously something very counterproductive. I would rather see Gazans learning how to answer tech support phone calls than fire rockets or watch Farfur the mouse and Nahul the Bee. However, we do not have anyone interested in building something other than villas for Hamas and Fatah thugs.

I am not happy about the bombing of Dresden or the lack of bombing the railways leading to Aushwitz by the US. It was not strategic. Humanity is not strategic I suppose is the lesson of war.
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d_nurv~unsafe/censored  Pro User  says:

thx...MO...i guess we'd all like to see the legacy of hatred come to an end...but other than an uncle in WWII i've never lost a family member or close friend to this type of conflict...so it's easier said than done i suppose...
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